The Rawhide Kid (real name: Johnny Bart, originally given as Johnny Clay) is a fictionalOld Westcowboy in comic books published by Marvel Comics. A heroic gunfighter of the 19th-century American West who was unjustly wanted as an outlaw, he is one of Marvel's most prolific Western characters. He and other Marvel western heroes have on rare occasions guest-starred through time travel in such contemporary titles as The Avengersand West Coast Avengers. In two mature-audience miniseries, in 2003 and 2010, he is depicted as gay-until things editorial change and chalked to never happened or were obvious mistakes.
The Rawhide Kid debuted in a 16-issue series (March 1955-Sept. 1957) from Marvel's 1950s predecessor, Atlas Comics. Most of the covers from the series were produced by highly acclaimed artists, generally either Joe Maneely or John Severin, but also Russ Heath andFred Kida. Interior art for the first five issues was by Bob Brown, with Dick Ayers at the reins thereafter.[1][2]
After a hiatus, the Rawhide Kid was revamped for what was now Marvel Comics by writerStan Lee, pencilerJack Kirby and inker Ayers. Continuing the Atlas numbering with issue #17 (Aug. 1960),[2][3] the title now featured a diminutive yet confident, soft-spoken fast gun constantly underestimated by bullying toughs, varmints, owlhoots, polecats, crooked saloon owners and other archetypes squeezed through the prism of Lee & Kirby's anarchic imagination.[citation needed] As in the outsized, exuberantly exaggerated action of the later-to-come World War II series Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos, The Rawhide Kid was now a freewheeling romp of energetic, almost slapstick action across cattle ranches, horse troughs, corrals, canyons and swinging chandeliers. Stringently moral, the Kid nevertheless showed a gleeful pride in his shooting and his acrobatic fight skills — never picking arguments but constantly forced to surprise lummoxes far bigger than he.[citation needed]
Through retcon, bits of and pieces of the Atlas and Silver Age characters' history meshed, so that the unnamed infant son of settlers the Clay family, orphaned by a Cheyenne raid, was raised by Texas Ranger Ben Bart on a ranch near Rawhide, Texas. Older brother Frank Clay, captured by Native Americans, eventually escaped and became a gambler, while eldest brother Joe Clay became sheriff of the town of Willow Flats; neither were in the regular cast, and each died in a guest appearance.[citation needed] Shortly after Johnny's 18th birthday, Ben Bart was murdered; Johnny, an almost preternaturally fast and accurate gunman, wounded the killers and left them to be taken into custody. A later misunderstanding between the Kid and a sheriff over a cattle rustler the Kid wounded in self-defense led to the hero's life as a fugitive.
Kirby continued as penciler through #32 (Feb. 1963), while helping to launch the Fantastic Four, the Hulk and other iconic characters of the "Marvel revolution". He drew covers through issue #47. Issues #33-35 were drawn by EC Comics veteran Jack Davis — some of the last color comics he would draw before gaining fame at the black-and-white, satirical comics magazine Mad. After several issues by Ayers, followed by a single issue by long-time Kid Colt artist Jack Keller, Larry Lieber, Lee's writer brother, began his nine-year run as the series' writer-artist, which lasted over 75 issues from 1964–1973. Lieber said in 1999,
I don't remember why I wanted to do it, particularly. I think I wanted a little more freedom. I didn't do enough of the superheroes to know whether I'd like them. What I didn't prefer was the style that was developing. It didn't appeal to me. ... Maybe there was just too much humor in it, or too much something. ... I remember, at the time, I wanted to make everything serious. I didn't want to give a light tone to it. When I did Rawhide Kid, I wanted people to cry as if they were watching High Noon or something. ... I'm a little unclear about leaving the superheroes and going to Rawhide Kid. I know that at the time I wanted — what's the expression? — a little space for myself or something, and I wanted to do a little drawing again.[4]
By 1973, as superheroes became increasingly ascendant, The Rawhide Kid became primarily a reprint title, though often bearing new covers by such prominent artists as Gene Colan, Gil Kane and Paul Gulacy. It ended publication with issue #151 (May 1979). This initial volume of the series included a single annual publication, cover-titled Rawhide Kid King-Size Special (Sept. 1971).[5] As well, reprints, including many Jack Kirby-drawn stories, appeared in the 1968-1976 title The Mighty Marvel Western.
In contrast to the character's previously depicted appearance — a small-statured, clean-cut redhead — these latter two series depicted him with shoulder-length dark hair, and wearing a slightly less stylized, more historically appropriate outfit than his classic one.
A controversial[10] five-issue miniseries, Rawhide Kid vol. 3 (April–June 2003), titled "Slap Leather"[11][12] was published biweekly by Marvel's mature-audience MAXimprint. Here the character was depicted as homosexual, with a good portion of the dialogue dedicated to innuendo to this effect. The series, which was written by Ron Zimmerman, and drawn by artist John Severin, was labeled with a "Parental Advisory Explicit Content" warning on the cover.[12] Series editor Axel Alonso said, "We thought it would be interesting to play with the genre. Enigmatic cowboy rides into dusty little desert town victimized by desperadoes, saves the day, wins everyone's heart, then rides off into the sunset, looking better than any cowboy has a right to."[13]
A sequel miniseries, The Rawhide Kid vol. 4 (Aug.-Nov. 2010),[14] rendered with a subtitle on covers as Rawhide Kid: The Sensational Seven,[15] found the Kid and his posse (consisting of Kid Colt, Doc Holliday, Annie Oakley, Billy the Kid, Red Wolf and The Two-Gun Kid) track the villainous Cristo Pike after Pike and his gang kidnap Wyatt and Morgan Earp.[16] The sequel was again written by Zimmerman, withHoward Chaykin taking over as artist.[17]
Johnny Clay was born in 1850 and orphaned as an infant, adopted by Ben Bart. In 1868 his "uncle" was murdered and he left the family ranch.[18] In 1869 he became a wanted man.[18] In 1870 he fought the Living Totem.[19] In 1872 he captured the costumed Grizzly with the help of the Two-Gun Kid.[20] He joined Kid Colt to defeat Iron Mask.[21] In 1873 he met the Avengers [22] In 1874 he met Doc Holliday. In 1875 he helped the Black Panther with Kid Colt and the Two-Gun Kid.[23] In 1876 Rawhide Kid, Kid Colt and Two-Gun Kid faced Red Raven, Iron Mask and the Living Totem with the help of the Avengers. In 1879 he met the Apache Kid. Subsequently he became a performer for Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show where he remained until 1885. In 1897 he took an understudy under his tutelage.[24]
The Rawhide Kid is Johnny Bart, Marvel's best-known Western hero. Though branded an outlaw, he continues to fight for right and justice.
Origin
Ben and Johnny
Johnny Bart was born Johnny Clay, but his family was quickly devastated during an Indian raid. His parents killed and one brother taken hostage, the other fled entirely, Johnny was adopted by his uncle Ben. It is uncertain, however, whether or not Ben was actually related, as he has been referred to as both "Uncle Ben" and "a lonely ranger"; despite this, Johnny regarded him as a father and deeply cared for him.
Living on a spread of land outside of Rawhide, Texas, Johnny learned gunplay from Ben, who was one of the fastest draws in the area. Ben hoped that Johnny would never have to use what he had learned, and Johnny intended only to use his skills for self-defense, if at all.
One day, however, tragedy struck. A pair of gunslingers named Hawk and Spade drifted through Rawhide with the intention of proving something. While Hawk confronted Ben and forced him to draw, Spade then called out from behind Ben, distracting him. Hawk then shot him dead for the bragging rights and the prestige he thought would come from it.
Quick draw
Johnny found Ben upon his return and buried him, with a vow to avenge him. He soon found the two men in Rawhide, boasting of their accomplishment. Johnny confronted Hawk and Spade and outdrew them both, shooting each of them in the arm before they could fire. As they were taken away by the sheriff, Johnny left Rawhide to fight men like Hawk and Spade, taking the name of the Rawhide Kid so that no one would forget Ben Bart and what happened in the town that was once his home.
He later came across a rustling ring in a town called Arrow Pass, where a rancher named Clay Rockwell was having trouble with his cattle being stolen. The Kid quickly figured out that Rockwell's neighbor, Sam Barker, was the rustler, easily altering Rockwell's Big-R brand into a Circle-B. When Barker attempted to draw on him, the Kid shot his arm to stop him, just as the sheriff rode up.
The overzealous sheriff misunderstood the situation and branded the Kid an outlaw, despite Rockwell telling him what really happened. Johnny rode off on Nightwind before he could be arrested.
Character Creation
John Bart made his first appearance in Rawhide Kid #1. He was created by Stan Leeand Bob Brown, and revamped later by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. He was later also significantly developed by Larry Lieber. More recently, he was reinvented by Ron Zimmerman.
Major Story Arcs
The Rawhide Kid
Originally, the Rawhide Kid was blond and rode a horse named Apache. He may have been named for the rawhide whip he carried and used regularly, rather than the town of Rawhide. After fighting two men who killed a rancher named Jesse Clayton, the Kid was confronted by the rancher's son, Randy. He rode off after distracting the excited young man, not wanting him to make the wrong decision in a fit of grief. However, Randy's uncle Cash had designs on the ranch and had been the one who had Randy's father killed. But the Rawhide Kid was a step ahead of him and spoke to the local sheriff, figuring out the plan and finding Randy and Cash. After a brief fight, Cash was killed and Randy alone. Rather than stay with the ranch, Randy decided to ride with the Kid as his sidekick.
Silver Age Return
The familiar Johnny Bart, raised by his uncle Ben, rode the West on his horse Nightwind. Although his actions early on marked him as an outlaw, the nature of the frontier and its inhabitants meant that he was not sought everywhere he went; if he had committed no crime in a region, he was often left alone. However, he tended not to stay in one place for too long and rarely grew attached to most people.
He later discovered that his family was not all wiped out as he had previously thought. When he stopped in a small border town, a girl at a saloon recognized a star-shaped birthmark on the Kid's neck and told him that another stranger had ridden through with one. The Kid rode north to find the man, and he finally found Frank Clay, a gambler with his mark on his wrist. He told Johnny about their other brother, who had fled during the Indian attack, and the two parted ways.
When the Kid was approaching a small town called Willow Flats, an apple farmer recognized him and went to warn the sheriff, who set a trap for the Kid using his fiancee. She claimed that she had been robbed of a family heirloom and the Kid was ambushed by the sheriff in the alley. When he woke in the jail and saw the man being tended to by his fiancee, he spotted the birthmark and confronted Joe Clay, his brother, with his cowardice. However, Joe had been tormented for years by what was just the panic of a very young boy. He released the Kid and the two parted ways amicably.
The Rawhide Kid continued to defend the weak and helpless and to battle criminals. Among the most notorious or unusual of his many adversaries were the Cougar, the original Red Raven, the Ape, the Tyrant of Tombstone Valley, the Masked Maverick, Marko the Manhunter, and the strange alien called the Living Totem. The Rawhide Kid sometimes joined forces with other legendary gunfighters, including Kid Colt, the third Phantom Rider, and the Two-Gun Kid. The Rawhide Kid even allied himself with members of the hero team Avengers who visited his time period on two different occasions.
Rawhide Kid (v2 from 1985)
In Laramie, Wyoming, in the late 1800's, the Rawhide Kid rode into town. A young man from the railroad, fascinated by him, started to follow him around, witnessing a bar brawl that his own indiscretion began. The sheriff, a man named Sam and an acquaintance of the Kid, took him to the jail to rest, to protect him from the people assuming the worst about the Kid. However, the young man broke him out of the jail, even though he was never a prisoner.
The misunderstanding forced the Kid to ride with his new understudy out of town, due to more misunderstanding on the part of the townspeople. The two stopped at a graveyard outside of town, so that the Kid could put a rose on the grave of a young gunfighter he shot early in his career, a young man with plenty to prove who would have killed him. The understudy quickly learned that the Kid lived with a great deal of regret and guilt.
After finding his bank account with nothing deposited, the Kid continued onto a train with the understudy, whose name was Jeff Packard...and who was being pursued by Pinkerton agents from Chicago named Miller and Mayberry. Orphans, Jeff and his sister had gone to work at a meat packing plant where the foreman molested his sister with the promise of getting them out of there. When he went back on his promise, Jeff confronted him with a cleaver, and the man fell into the sausage pit. Jeff had come to the West to flee the murder charge and to learn gunfighting, if he could, and take his sister away from there.
The two came to an abandoned Wells-Fargo building and accidentally disrupted a rehearsal of Buffalo Bill Cody's Wild West Show. Bill invited the Kid to join the show, and he accepted. For a while, the Kid and Jeff found themselves at peace. The Kid reunited with a few old friends, such as Grey Bear, chief of the Oglala Sioux, andAnnie Oakley. He also ran into Ned Buntline, the writer who profited from the Kid's name but had not paid him for the use of it for some time. When Bill found out about this, he made Ned pay the Kid all he was owed.
Eventually, Miller and Mayberry found the Kid and Jeff, and they were again forced to flee. This time, they were set upon by a black bounty hunter who had been hired by Mayberry. However, they escaped to a town called Emancipation, a town of former slaves who had been beset by a group of racist gunmen called the Nightriders. When the bounty hunter caught up to them, he was changed by the Kid's willingness to put his life on the line to help the people of Emancipation, and instead of taking them in, he stayed in Emancipation, to help the people there.
Further tormented by his troubled memories and nightmares, the Kid found himself in Diablo Wells. The Pinkerton men were ready for the two of them, and although Jeff thought he was ready to face them, the Kid told him that he wasn't anywhere near ready. Jeff sucker-punched the Kid and went out to face the men, but he was overwhelmed and murdered by them. Still groggy and hallucinating from the punch, the Kid experienced visions of his old foes mingled with reality. However, at the end of it all, he had avenged his understudy and wiped out the men pursuing them, riding off into the sunset with Jeff over his horse.
Blaze of Glory
By the late 1870's Johnny allied himself with the Apache Kid during the Railroad Wars. Then by 1885, Johnny had run out of wars to fight, so he started to work for the Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show.
There his old friend Reno Jones enlisted his help along with other western legends to help protect his town called Wonderment in Montana against a band of mercenaries known as the Nightriders.
This was a gang of racist cowboys who threatened to kill everyone in town. Rawhide Kid asked his allies the Two-Gun Kid, Kid Colt, Ringo Kid and the Phantom Rider to join him in hopes of bringing the evil and racist Nightriders to justice and to save the people of Wonderment. A brutal battle erupted in witch the gunslingers managed to defeat the Nightriders. It however came with a price; Johnny's close friends Kid Colt and Two-Gun Kid died heroically in battle. Rawhide Kid was devastated with the loss of his close allies and friends. He honored his friends with the vow to bring justice to the West for the rest of his life. Beside losing a couple of friends during this war, he also gained a new one in the guise of a man called Caleb Hammer. These events took place in the Blaze of Glory story arc.
Apache Skies
The Kid many years Later
In 1886, Johnny learned that his old friend and ally the Apache Kid was murdered. He teamed-up with the Apache Kid's wife Rosa, who now called herself the Apache Kid out of respect of her late husband, to take down the murders and save a group of Apache children. They both brought the children to the town of Wonderment. It is not yet known about what happened to Johnny Bart after this event.
Other Versions
Debatable Canon
The following stories are of unknown canonicity and it has not been stated exactly where they fit into the character's canon, if at all. They may take place on alternate Earths, but no statement has been made as to which.
New Origin
The character of the Rawhide Kid was retooled and updated in many ways, for a relaunch in 2003. In this series, Slap Leather and the Sensational Seven, he was made gay. This however is not the 616 Rawhide Kid.
Slap Leather
the 'gay' version
Matt Morgan, sheriff of Wells Junction, widower and father of a boy named Toby, was beset by a band of thugs led by the outlaw Cisco Pike. After Matt's deputy was killed by Pike in the saloon, Matt was saved by the arrival of the Rawhide Kid, who intimidated the men away from the sheriff. Toby was disappointed in his father's cowardice, though the schoolmarm Laura Ingulls carried a torch for Matt. The boys of the town came to find the Kid, who went to talk to Pike's gang and rode off in disgust after putting them in their place.
Under pressure from corrupt mayor Walker Bush and the upcoming election, Matt desperately looked for a new deputy. At last, the Kid presented himself for the job and was hired immediately. While the Kid lunched with two wealthy and eligible Cartright brothers, Matt ate with Laura, interrupted by Red Duck, Pike's second-in-command. Red Duck told Matt about Pike's plan to raid the town again, threatening him openly in front of all the schoolchildren. After a brief scuffle, Matt was left seriously injured and the Kid furious that he had to break his lunch date to deal with a thug.
When Toby's constant complaints about his father's perceived cowardice and ineptitude finally hit home with the Kid, he recalled his own abusive father. His resolve set, he summoned the townspeople and told them to leave so they don't distract him or get themselves killed. Laura insisted on remaining, so the Kid sent her to busy herself preparing for the gang's arrival while he talked to Toby about appreciating his father.
Eventually the Kid and Laura seemed to resolve their differences. Pike's gang came to raid the town, and the Kid quickly dealt with all of them, except for Catastrophe Jen, an extremely libidinous lesbian who apparently distracted herself with the whores in the saloon. Le' Sabre attempted to force himself on Laura and freed Red Duck, but the Kid and Matt arrived just in time to save her.
Finally, Matt and the Kid confronted Cisco Pike and the rest of his gang. When Pike himself was the only one left, the Kid drew against him and was apparently shot. Matt shot Pike, winning Toby's admiration not for killing a man, but for trying not to. However, it was then revealed that the Kid actually had hidden an iron skillet in his coat and a Derringer in his sleeve that he used to kill Pike. Laura helped him hide them from Matt and Toby, and he bid farewell to the town after Matt and Laura's wedding, leaving him a new deputy in Catastrophe Jen.
The Sensational Seven
A few years later, the Kid rode into Tombstone, to find the place in chaos. After discovering his friend Annie Oakley in the jail -- she had locked herself there to protect herself from the overactive townspeople -- he also learned that the Earp brothers had been captured by Cristo Pike, Cisco Pike's brother. Wyatt and Morgan Earp, prisoners at Fort Pecos, constantly fought in Pike's cell, goaded on by an awful, drunken old man. Meanwhile, calling himself General Pike, Cristo planned to have the Earp brothers hanged, knowing that it would bring the inevitable rescue attempt.
The Kid made plans to ride out with Annie after pacifying Tombstone's inhabitants, leaving the town in the hands of an old friend, the original Ghost Rider. They headed to Deadwood, where the Kid is treated as a hero, and recruited Doc Holliday, Kid Colt, the Two-Gun Kid, and later Red Wolf, with his wolf partner Lobo. Red Wolf also mentioned the Kid's name amongst his tribe: Dances-Naked-With-Glee. The group later came across a crass, ignorant gunfighter calling himself Billy the Kid. Sensing that they might need a disposable distraction, the Rawhide Kid gives Doc the assignment to be Billy's chaperone.
At Fort Pecos, Morgan, finally driven to breaking point by the constant fighting with his brother and the goading of the old man, joined Cristo Pike's forces. On the way, the Rawhide Kid and the others took a break and chatted, while Doc again had to teach Billy a lesson. The Two-Gun Kid again told his single interesting story of teaming up with the Avengers, from the future. Later, Two-Gun and Rawhide had a heart-to-heart, where the Rawhide Kid told about his unhappy childhood and abusive, drunken father. After being goaded to learn gunfighting, which he did not particularly want to do, Johnny left home at a young age and trained around the world. His mother later apparently died from a self-inflicted injury by stepping on a rake, while his father simply vanished.
The Sensational Seven
Lobo later arrived to tell the group that Pike had assembled a group of villainous counterparts to each of their seven: Le Saber Kid, the Lone Ninja, Bloody Ivan, Kid Cabo, Grizzly Johnson, Honey Bee, and Kid Dead. The Rawhide Kid decided that they need a dramatic name themselves, so he dubbed them the Sensational Seven.
Morgan briefly became more enchanted with the villainous lifestyle, but then he quickly became fearful for his life and attempted to leave Fort Pecos...at exactly the time the Sensational Seven arrive. He was knocked unconscious by the door, and the Seven faced off against their counterparts. Naturally, the Seven were victorious. The Two-Gun Kid was especially delighted at banking "adventure number two", so that he would have something other than his adventure with the Avengers to talk about.
Cristo Pike, however, was not so easily taken and emerged holding Wyatt Earp on one side and the horrible old man on the other. Thinking this would be his safe way out, he was sure they would not harm either of the hostages. However, he was wrong; the Rawhide Kid shot them both, just winging them enough to drop them. As far as he was concerned, his father was dead long ago. Pike drew and the Rawhide Kid blew him away.
Doc Holliday dragged the Kid's father off to teach him a lesson, the Earp brothers made up, and the Seven rode once more again, with the Rawhide Kid off to catch a boat to Hong Kong.
Powers and Skills
Abilities
The Rawhide Kid was one of the most accomplished gunslingers in the American southwest. It is possible that he may have been ambidextrous, as he was able to wield two Colts simultaneously with equal degrees of accuracy. His marksmanship was so precise that he could shoot a weapon from an opponent's hand, without causing any physical harm to his target. Although gun slinging was the Kid's specialty, he was also a skilled hand-to-hand combatant. In some cases, Rawhide even preferred defeating his opponents through physical force, rather than through the use of his six-shooters.
Strength level
In his prime, the Rawhide Kid possessed the normal human strength of a man of his age, height, and build who engaged in intensive regular exercise.
Transportation
The Rawhide Kid rides a horse named Nightwind, who is highly intelligent and responsive.
The original Rawhide Kid rode a horse named Apache.
Weapons
The Rawhide Kid carried twin Colt revolvers.
The original Rawhide Kid also carried a rawhide whip that he used frequently, and which may have been his namesake. However, the later character does not seem to use this weapon.
Is the Rawhide Kidd Gay ?
Actually no.I always think,if the original creator of a character felt his creation was hetrosexual and you see him adviring women,take he is not gay.Now after years of everbody assuming that the character is hetro.
Comic books are getting gayer by the day. Archie Comics, once notorious for its boring conservatism, shocked the bigots when it introduced Kevin Keller, an openly gay teen who joined Archie's pals 'n' gals in 2010. Northstar, who first came out of the Marvel closet in 1992, married his partner Kyle Jinadu on the cover of Astonishing X-Men # 51. Even DC Comics got into the act, as it revamped its long-time characters Batwoman and Green Lantern Alan Scott as out and proud.
But a history of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people would not be complete without mentioning another gay Marvel hero, the Rawhide Kid.
I was never a fan of Marvel Comics, which is probably why I never heard of the Rawhide Kid during my formative years. According to Don Markstein's web sitetoonopedia.com, the Kid first appeared in 1955, at a time when Western comics and TV shows were more popular than super heroes. Like other cowboy heroes of the day, the Kid "was a typical gunfighter, roaming from town to town and getting into trouble." Alas, his first comic only lasted for 16 issues.
In 1960 the Rawhide Kid was revived by author Stan Lee and artist Jack Kirby, who would soon to make history with the Amazing Spider-Man. This time the Kid was given a name - Johnny Bart - a history - he was an orphan raised by his Uncle Ben in the town of Rawhide, Texas - and a motive - owlhoots killed his Uncle. This version of the Kid was more successful than the last one, as he and his horse Apache fought varmints for more than 150 issues, till May of 1979. He even had a mini-series in 1985 and teamed-up with the Avengers in the gay nineties
You can not keep a good Kid down, and in 2003 the powers that be at Marvel decided to bring the Rawhide Kid back on a regular basis, but with a twist. The gunslinger who used to be shy around women emerged as a gay man in a limited-edition comic that Marvel titled Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather. Though Marvel already cracked the lavender glass ceiling with Northstar, the Kid's sexual orientation was still novel enough to cause a sensation.
The Rawhide Kid's adventures out of the cowboy closet were written by Howard Stern's pal Ron Zimmerman, who called the Kid "an empowering character that the gay community would be able to embrace," and drawn by veteran artist John Severin. Published as a five-issue miniseries, Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather was later collected in a trade paperback.
Realizing how controversial the concept of a gay hero is, the folks at Marvel decided to give the Rawhide Kid a light touch and a cautious approach. "He doesn't come out and say he's gay," promised Joe Quesada, Marvel's Editor-In-Chief. "But it's obvious through his actions and the things he says that his preference is men, not women."
He certainly has a better fashion sense than the average cowpoke. The online gay message board Datalounge, never one to mince words, described his "broad shouldered and slim hipped frame [as] lovingly outfitted in a double-row sky-blue button-front leather pantsuit paired with a white hat and matching Beaver-skin gloves". Only a gay man would wear such an outfit, IMHO.
Though as open as a pre-2012 Anderson Cooper, the Rawhide Kid's sly remarks and innuendos made his sexual orientation clear to anyone who is in the life. For example, in the first issue of Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather, the Kid expresses his admiration for the Lone Ranger: "I think that mask and powder-blue outfit are fantastic. I can certainly see why that Indian follows him around."
He is also fond of Wild Bill Hickock, who in the original draft he called a"very nice man. Big - ahem - I mean bigger than life." Unfortunately, Stan Lee, now Chairman Emeritus of Marvel Comics, agreed with the critics that the Wild Bill Hickock quip was in bad taste and ordered that it be removed from the finished product.
Needless to say, the religious right got into a frenzy over the very idea of a gay cowboy hero. Andrea Lafferty, Executive Director of the Traditional Values Coalition, went on CNN's Crossfire and expressed her fears that some young boy somewhere might grab a copy of Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather and immediately turn gay. Lafferty ignored the fact that most comic readers today are adults, and that Marvel eventually published Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather under its adult imprint Max which will feature a parental advisory label. Not that there was any need. As an "adult" comic, Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather is rather dull.
Other critics, from our side of the fence, worried that the comic's campy tone and smart attire would turn the Rawhide Kid into a caricature. There is nothing wrong with camp humor, especially in a genre often that takes itself too seriously. But why the ambiguity? Why couldn't Marvel give us a hero who says that he is gay and who has a gay life and has gay friends or even, God forbid, has gay sex?
Like the creators of Will and Grace, Marvel wanted to have it both ways, by giving us a character who would attract gays without alienating straights. "The original Kid was campy and irreverent. I think they are trying to recreate that," said former Bilerico contributor Cathy Renna, then News Media Director for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD). "There will be the same complaints we hear about Will Truman: he's an asexual, stereotypical gay guy. Why not just go for it? It may be a lost opportunity."
The Rawhide Kid returned, as ambiguous as ever, in a 2010 miniseries written by Zimmerman and drawn by Howard Chaykin. And though the Kid's sexual orientation is still debated, as far as I am concerned, he is always gay.
And as far as the above is concerned,he's an idiot.Marvel tried something as it obviously didn't work.Marvel,despite claim on contiuety,often redo a bad idea.Spider Woman was once an elvolved spider after all.Alicia Masters and years later,during Skull Invasion thing,half the dead Marvel heroes were replace by shape shifting Skulls and return to the Marvel Universe Earth.The formerly dead and much made in the press Superman,Batman,Wonder Woman,Aquaman,Hal Jordan Green Lantern and Jason Todd Second Robin all returned from the dead.So dead in comics,isn't dead,as it is in the real world...yet,and nor is gay-unless,your a despirant fool,wanting the red haired coyboy to be your personal sex fantasy.Keep,that to fan fiction blog,up your videos of Kirk and Spock doing it.So saying the Rawhide Kidd wasn't gay.You guys,in the press were confused,thats all.
And the Big ''G''-otherwise,known as Galactus-has yet to come out of the closet,as far as I'm concerned.Come guys-wares Purple.There isn't no Mrs Galactus,but spends years morning the loss of some silvery naked guy on a surf board ?HELLO-GAY.!AS GAY-LACTUS!
''Marvel Comics plans to break new ground in the comic book industry by introducing the first openly gay title character in a comic book.
The character will appear in a revival of the 1950s title, "The Rawhide Kid." Marvel expects a February debut.
The new series pairs the original artist, John Severin, now 86, with Ron Zimmerman, a writer for the "Howard Stern Show."
The Rawhide Kid has been a Marvel character since the 1950s both as a main and a secondary character. However, it was not until Zimmerman approached Marvel with his idea of a homosexual Rawhide Kid that sexuality was mentioned in the discussion of the character.
Although shy with girls, the original Rawhide Kid was not intended to be gay. The new version uses double entendres and euphemisms to reveal his homosexuality without saying anything explicitly. Based on a blurb on Marvel's Web site, the tone may be campy.
In a bubble in the first edition of the series, Rawhide Kid comments about the Lone Ranger: "I think that mask and the powder blue outfit are fantastic. I can certainly see why the Indian follows him around."
Brian Reinert, Marvel's public relations officer, said that Marvel has always been "interested in tapping into stories that are relevant today." He expects the reactions to this comic to vary.
Although many readers will accept the new sexuality of the Marvel hero, Reinert expects possible negative responses from people who don't accept homosexuality and readers who do not want to see a change in their beloved character.
"When you tackle these issues it will always push buttons," he said.
Marvel is planning six stories over the next six months. After looking at the response to those issues they will decide whether to continue production and whether they would be interested in more series with gay title characters.
Although Rawhide Kid is the first gay title character, Marvel does have several existing gay characters, such as North Star of the "X-Men" comic book series.
The Rawhide Kid series, beginning with the first edition "Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather," will run about 22 pages and have a suggested retail price of $2.95.''
This week we take a look at the Rawhide Kid, Marvel's red-headed and now gay (or not?) cowboy. The Rawhide Kid is actually Johhny Bart, a gunslinger of incredible skill and talent who through unfortunate circumstances is unjustly wanted as an outlaw.
More specifically, we're looking at the Kid because in 2003 a new limited series, "Slap Leather", revealed him to be homosexual. There was some controversy over this series as it portrays him as rather effeminate in nature, and many cried that the character had been turned into a stereotype.
To make things more complicated, afterwards the book 'Marvel Universe, A-Z' lists him as only pretending to be gay, to confuse others. Joe Quesada has since said this was a mistake, made in an attempt to make sense of the characters multiple origins (Rawhide Kid was originally created for Atlas comics, later bought by Marvel). Joe Q. is also on record saying Johhny is still gay and will remain so.
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- Thursday, December 26 2002 17:56:13
Marvel Comics announced last week that it would come out with a miniseries featuring its long-time Western hero, the Rawhide Kid. The Kid was introduced by Marvel in 1955, during a lull in superhero popularity, but the character hasn’t had his own comic book since 1979. Now, in a miniseries called Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather, Marvel is bringing the Kid out of the closet for the first gay comic-book Western. Despite the title, the story won’t be gay porn. According to Marvel, writer Ron Zimmerman will use double-entendre and euphemisms to reveal the character’s homosexuality. Take, for example, the Kid’s appreciation of cowboy competitor the Lone Ranger: " I think that mask and powder-blue outfit are fantastic. I can certainly see why the Indian follows him around. - thank you masked man.By the way,I'm not gay-not that there is anything wrong with most of my fellow cowboy freinds are gay.My fathers is gay.I hear Hawkeye was gay....'' As you can imagine, the anti-homosexual right is incensed. Peter Spriggs of the Family Research Council objected, " This is one more example of children being indoctrinated with pro-homosexual viewpoints by the popular media. " Andrea Lafferty of the Traditional Values Coalition protested, " They’re pitching this as a comic book for kids.... Again, homosexuality has invaded the childhood of so many kids. " Last week, Marvel icon Stan Lee debated Lafferty on Crossfire. While Lafferty spent the whole segment insisting that Marvel was out to convert kids, conservative host Tucker Carlson spent the last half of the interview asking Lee over and over again whether the character of Robin (Batman’s sidekick) was also gay. Carlson didn’t seem to understand when Lee told him that Robin belonged to DC Comics, a completely different company.
Lafferty, Carlson, and the other right-wing pundits who have jumped on this issue are being ridiculously ignorant, but not for the reason you might think. The left and the right can argue about the morality of homosexuality until the cows come home, but the idea that comic books are popular with kids is about as mired in the past as Trent Lott’s affection for Jim Crow. Despite a string of big-budget comic-based movies, the comic-book industry itself is really hurting. Kids love comics associated with their favorite Japanese cartoons, such as Dragon Ball, but a decade of price increases and writing for the older " fanboys " has almost eliminated the pre-teen audience for standard superhero comics. Prices have more than doubled in the last decade — the cheapest comic today is $2.25 — while allowances haven’t kept up. Comic books have disappeared from the places where kids once found them, such as drugstores and bookstores. Venturing into a comic-book specialty shop often leads to a run-in with a real-life version of The Simpsons’ obnoxious " Comic Book Guy. " Complicated continuities have made it nearly impossible for new readers to jump into the middle of a long-running series. Any kids who fell in love with Spider-Man after the summer blockbuster would find a different hero in the comics — 30 years old, moody, and separated from his now-wife, Mary Jane. A new Spider-Man series, developed to restart Spidey’s history for new readers, is expensive and quickly snapped up by collectors instead of teenagers. Kids who aren’t reading comics become adults who aren’t reading comics, and the customer base for these expensive graphic novels and reprint collections gets smaller and smaller. The fact is, Marvel doesn’t want kids to buy Rawhide Kid comics — it is coming out on an imprint, MAX, specifically marked for adult readers. But it’s dying for kids to buy comics featuring Spider-Man, X-Men, the Fantastic Four, and all the other old standards. A gay cowboy will get Marvel news, and some angry Christians, but it won’t help the company dip into the wallets of the 13-year-olds whose parents loved Marvel Comics 25 years ago.And next Superman will be coming out-along with Spider-Man,Captain America,Prince Namor,the Hulk,Bat-Man,the X-Men,Wolverine, Issue Date: December 19 - 26, 2002 Back to the News and Features table of contents. homeric only at Marvel and DC. Marvel Comics To Unveil Gay Gunslinger -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pink Rawhide by Jed Lang 365Gay.com Entertainmen
t The Rawhide Kid is coming out. It is the first time that a major comic book company, in this case Marvel Comics, has established that its title character is one of us. The word comes on the heels of a "Rage Gay Crusader" comic developed by gay artist Joe Phillips and based on the strips featured in Queer As Folk, and the introduction of a gay plot in DC comics Green Lantern comics. There are already gay characters in comics such as North Star of the "X-Men" series. Expect Rawhide, who made his comics debut in the 1950s, to come out of the closet in February. Rawhide is the fastest gun in the West and a longtime hot seller for Marvel. "The Kid was always shown as a shy-around-girls kind of guy," says Marvel's editor-in -chief Joe Quesada. "Now you know why." "This is going to be the first gay Western," says Quesada. Don't expect Rawhide to blast his way out of the closet though. Quesada says the Kid won't make any pronouncements about his sexuality but promises readers will "know it from the moment you see him." "It's a classic Western, like (the movie) ‘Shane,' but with a gay twist," said writer Ron Zimmerman. While the story has "a comedic slant," Zimmerman said he hopes the 21st-century kid is "an empowering character that the gay community would be able to embrace." But maybe we should have seen it coming. In the very first edition of the series, in 1957, The Rawhide Kid comments about the Lone Ranger: "I think that mask and the powder blue outfit are fantastic. I can certainly see why the Indian follows him around." Marvel is planning six Rawhide Kid stories over the next six months. After looking at the response to those issues they will decide whether to continue production and whether they would be interested in more series with gay title characters. -------------------
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The 5 Most Unintentionally Offensive Comic Book Characters
Comics, like any art form, are a product of the generation that created them. In some cases, it's nice to see Captain America channel American patriotism to beat Nazi ass. In other cases, Indian Chief.
Still, like society comics strive to move forward and away from the sins of the past. Sure, they've made some slightly bad racial decisions ("We should call every black superhero 'Black SomethingOrOther,' so everyone knows how black they are"), but at least they tried to progress. Even if their attempts at racial sensitivity are misguided or poorly thought out, you can't fault them for trying, right?
Oh wait, of course you can.
#5.
Marvel Creates a Gay Hero Presumably Based on Will & GraceReruns
Homosexual characters have been featured in comics prior to 2003, but usually he (it was always a he) would be a mincing effeminate poof who would be either the butt of constant jokes, or beaten up, or both. (Or, you know, Robin.) But the mainstream comic scene had not yet seen a gay title character in a comic, which is actually pretty shocking, when you realize that they'd made room for the roller-disco demographic. So, Marvel decided to team veteran comic artist John Severin with writer Ron Zimmerman to help correct that oversight.
The plan was to revamp The Rawhide Kid, a tough, quick-gunned cowboy from the 50s. They were going to keep his toughness and attitude, just with a gay twist. By making a gay character that was both a hero and a cowboy--typically uber-masculine roles--it was a great opportunity to break away from stereotypes and show the comic-reading audience that not all homosexuals were screaming hairdressers or over-the-top caricatures; they could be just as tough and badass as your favorite action hero. If handled properly, this could be a very important comic series.
So, How'd That Go?
Not, uh... not great.
Rawhide Kid was every negative, damaging gay stereotype dressed in a cowboy hat. Sure, he was still a good fighter and a great shooter, but he was also a nancing, effeminate goon and the exact kind of character people didn't need to identify the gay movement with. He's the title character, but he's stillthe butt of the joke. Additionally, his antics made him, and we say this respectfully, annoying as shit. He says things like "toodles" and calls out "meow" when he's being bitchy. He gives out douchey fashion advice...
...he speaks in lame double entendres and cracks himself up while confusing everyone around him...
...he practices being a cowboy in nothing but his chaps because he likes the feeling of the "wind on [his] cheeks."...
And what kind of a superhero calls fighting bad guys "boring" in a fucking comic book?!
Marvel could have created a character that positively impacted the homosexual image in the eyes of the mainstream comic audience and maybe given some folks a fresh perspective. Instead, they wheeled out every corny stereotype and made an aggressively annoying character that no one under any circumstances would want to read.
Still, theworstthing that came out of all of this was probably Marvel's reaction. It's bad enough that they lazily embraced every gay stereotype in the creation of their character, but they also slapped an "explicit content" warning on the cover. Now, nowhere in the comic will you see nudity, sex, kissing or even the Kid explicitly admitting he is gay. The fact that he was acting overtly gay however was, according to Marvel, for "Adults Only."-------------------------------------------------
The Return of The Rawhide Kid By Jesse Monteagudo Jesse's Journal Like many gay kids, I grew up on comic books AND BEING AN IGNORANT DOPE LEARNED NOTHING-NOTHING,SGT SHULTZ. Living in a place where I did not fit in, I sought escape in a world of muscular men and powerful women: Superman, Batman andWonder Woman. (As the class nerd who made it big, The Amazing Spider-Man would have been an ideal role model, but I never read his comix-UNTIL HE BECAME GAY.)
More precisely, I wanted to be the boy companion - Jimmy Olsen or Robin - who would hang out with Superman or Batman, share their adventures and even get tied up sometimes. (Comix where the hero gets tied up were my particular favorites.) Not till much later did I hear about Dr. Fredric Wertham's anti-comic diatribe, Seduction of the Innocent: The Influence of Comic Books on Today's Youth (1954), where the doctor claimed that Batman and Robin were a gay couple who had a corruptive influence on impressionable young boys. I was never a fan of Marvel Comics, which is probably why I never heard of The Rawhide Kid. According to Don Markstein's "Toonopedia" (www.toonopedia.com), The Kid first appeared in 1955, at a time when Western comix and TV shows were popular. Like other cowboy heroes of the day, the Kid "was a typical gunfighter, roaming from town to town and getting into trouble." Not surprisingly, his first comic only lasted for 16 issues.
In 1960 The Rawhide Kid was revived by author Stan Lee and artist Jack Kirby, who were soon to make history with The Amazing Spider-Man. This time The Kid was given a name - Johnny Bart; a history - he was an orphan raised by his Uncle Ben in the town of Rawhide, Texas; and a motive - owlhoots killed his Uncle. This time The Kid was here to stay, as he and his horse Apache fought varmints for more than 150 issues, till May of 1979. He even had a mini-series in 1985 and teamed-up with The Avengers in the 1990's. But you can't keep a good Kid down, and the powers that be at Marvel decided to bring The Rawhide Kid back on a regular basis, but with a twist.
The gunslinger who used to be shy around women emerges as a gay man in a new comic book that Marvel has tentatively titled Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather [!]. Though openly gay characters have graced the pages of underground and adult comix (not to mention Leyland Publications' Meatmen books) for decades, The Rawhide Kid will be the first gay title character to emerge from one of the major comic book publishers. The Kid's adventures out of the cowboy closet will be chronicled by Howard Stern's pal Ron Zimmerman - who called The Kid "an empowering character that the gay community would be able to embrace" - and drawn by veteran artist John Severin.
The first issue is scheduled to appear in February, and I can hardly wait. Realizing how controversial the concept of a gay hero is, the folks at Marvel decided to give The Kid a light touch and a cautious approach. "He doesn't come out and say he's gay," said Joe Quesada, Marvel's Editor-In-Chief at Marvel. "But it's obvious through his actions and the things he says that his preference is men, not women."[UNTIL MARVEL EDITORS SAY OTHERWISE,AS THEY OFTEN DO-SO DON'T CHEER YET,RAWHIDE KID SEEMS TO STILL BE IN A CLOSET-IF THERE AT ALL. He certainly has a better fashion sense than the average cowpoke. The online gay magazine Datalounge, never one to mince words, described his "broad shouldered and slim hipped frame [as] lovingly outfitted in a double-row sky-blue button-front leather pantsuit paired with a white hat and matching Beaver-skin gloves". Only a gay man would wear such an outfit, IMHO. If that wasn't enough, The Kid will make sly remarks and innuendos that would make his sexual orientation clear to anyone who's in the life. For example, in the first issue of Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather, The Kid expresses his admiration for The Lone Ranger: "I think that mask and powder-blue outfit are fantastic. I can certainly see why that Indian follows him around." The Kid is also fond of Wild Bill Hickock, who in the original draft he calls a"very nice man. Big - ahem - I mean bigger than life."
Unfortunately, Stan Lee, now Chairman Emeritus of Marvel Comics,WHO IS SUING MARVEL OVER VARIUOS OTHER THINGS agreed with the critics that the Wild Bill Hickock quip was in bad taste and ordered that it be removed from the finished product. Needless to say, the religious right is in a frenzy over the whole idea of a gay cowboy hero. Andrea Lafferty, Executive Director of the Traditional Values Coalition, went on CNN's Crossfire, expressing her fears that some young boy somewhere might grab a copy of Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather and be homosexually corrupted.
Lafferty ignores the fact that most comic readers today are adults, and that Marvel will publish Rawhide Kid: Slap Leather under its adult imprint Max which will feature a parental advisory label. As far as the RR critics are concerned, Dr. Wertham might be dead but his crusade lives on. Other critics, from our side of the fence, worry that the comic's campy tone and smart attire will turn The Rawhide Kid into a caricature. There is nothing wrong with camp humor, especially in a genre often that takes itself too seriously. But why the ambiguity? Why can't Marvel give us a hero who says that he's gay and who has a gay life and has gay friends or even, God forbid, has gay sex? Like the creators of Will and Grace, Marvel wants to have it both ways, by giving us a character who will attract gays without alienating straights. "The original Kid was campy and irreverent. I think they're trying to recreate that," said Cathy Renna, News Media Director for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD). "There will be the same complaints we hear about Will Truman: he's an asexual, stereotypical gay guy. Why not just go for it? It may be a lost opportunity." The Rawhide Kid has been in the closet too long. Let's see what happens when he comes out.
Jesse Monteagudo is a freelance writer who lives in South Florida with his significant other. He can be reached at jessemonteagudo@aol.com
RAWHARD KID Posted By: JOE THOMPSON Date: THU, 12/26/02, 1:11 p.m. RAWHIDE CLOWN KID IS NOW A JERK Posted By: MISTER SPOOK Date: THU, 12/26/02, 1:04 p.m.
Rawhide Kid Comics Get ready to slap leather on February 6, 2003! That lovable red-headed scamp is back! And no one handles a hot rod like the Rawhide Kid! The Rawhide Kid has been a character in the Marvel universe since the early 1950's, but it was not until writer Ron Zimmerman (who also writes for the highly controversial Howard Stern Show) approached Marvel with his idea of a homosexual Rawhide Kid that sexuality was mentioned in the discussion of the character.
Marvel Comics plans to take this title to a new level and break new ground in the comic book industry by introducing the first openly gay title character. Marvel has always been interested in putting out stories that are relevant in today's society. Whenever you tackle controversial issues such as homosexuality, there is always going to be some negativity. That's just the way our society is.
The success of this new title could determine if more gay super heroes will be appear in the pages of Marvel Comics. Marvel has had one other gay super hero in the past - North Star from the New Mutants series. This title will become a six-issue mini-series that will play out over the months to come. The cover image was created by Dave Johnson and the pencil work was done by John Severin. And of course, the story was written by Ron Zimmerman. This is an issue not to be missed! To reserve your copy of this groundbreaking issue from Marvel comics, please contact us today! OK,DON'T EVERYONE RUSH OUT AT ONCE OR ORDER ONLINE........Wait....nothings happenning.
just another real stupid comic stunt by the BIG TWO-THE GREAT GODS OF COMICDOM.THE GREAT BIG SALES-BIG YOU WANT TO WORK THERE COMPANIES.I thought this a comics book message board-well,you 3 might be over heels and happy the RAWHIDE KID being gay,but it is like some homo hero of yours turning suddenly strait.someone should smack marvel and joe quasada for this and so much more.don't people know you are just being used by a failing dinosaur comic company-maybe know told you but Marvel has been dying slowly since 1979-only the comic speculators,one or two selling projects and lisencing up the ass.have kept Marvel from going under 15 years ago.If Rawhide Kid started out ok,but he didn't-like all their character,someone desided to alter him-make him either or a superhero-which is basically the same thing,when you think about it.So Nothstar isn't the first gay superhero,you could say Superman or Batman are-if you look at a certain way. Sorry,I would like to agree,but I don't.I just think it is sad Marvel and other companies use dirty tricks to sell a failing property to a small market,but use em for cheap publicity. Better luck next time-ps,if any other character at Marvel is gay.my vote is all of Alpha Flight,the Thunderbolt,Jack of Hearts and and anything created by the likes of Bill Matlo-Micronautes,Rom and Woodgod comes to mind-despite girlfreinds and such,and Jim Shooter or Peter Pavid and John Byrne
.THE WAY,RUMOR HAS PETER DAVID AND JOE QUASADA ARE GAY-ASK JOHN BYNRE OR SO I HEAR . MOST SUPERHEROES AND THOSE THAT READ EM ARE EITHER GAY,WANT TO BE GAY,ACT GAY,OR ARE FAG FAGS-MALE OR FEMALE-BESIDES WITH THOSE LITTLE BOYS WORSHIPPING GUYS WITH BIG MUSCLE-WHAT DO YOU EXPECT-GOOD ONE MARVEL-PERFECTO-VERY GOOD VERY GOOD.BRAVO-WHO IS NEXT ON YOUR HIT LIST-SPIDER MAN?SUPERMAN?THE X-MEN?THE AVENGERS?NICK FURY?THE ORIGINAL HUMAN TORCH? REMEMBER MAKE MARVEL MINE-CAUSE IT IS ALL GAY NOW THIS JUST PROVES THAT MARVEL WILL DO ANYTHING THESE GAYS FOR A CHEAP,DIRTY BUCK AND PUBLITY WERE,THERE IS NO MARVEL.IT ALSO PROVES THAT THEY ARE THE GREAT DINOSAUR COMPANY,THE WORLD NO LONGER NEEDS OR WANTS.THE FUTURE OF COMICS,DEAR FREINDS IS NOT IN BIZZARO LAND MARVEL AND DC,KEPT ALIVE BY BIG BUSINESS AND SUPERHERO CULTIST,BUT WITH THE VAST INDEPENDENTS. PASS IT ON.REMEMBER IT.THIS AIN'T JUST ONE COMIC,YOU DON'T READ,IT IS THE SIGN THE QUALITY AND GOOD BUSINESS SENSE OF THE SILVER AND GOLDEN AGE IS LONG GONE AND REPLACED BY THE PACK OF SOULESS,GREDDY MORONS,OUT TO KILLL THE GOLDEN GOOSE-LONG DEAD.OK,THE SPIDER MAN,X-MEN AND BLADE AND THE NET,AND ALL THESE STUPID COMICS STUNTS AND POOR MANS PT BARNUM ACTS AIN'T THE SECOND AND THIRD GOLDEN AND SILVERE AGE'S RETURN.THEY ARE JUST VERY STUPID ACTS BY VERY STUPID PEOPLE,IN PLACES WERE THEY SHOULD NOT BE. AND THE SHAME IS RAWHIDE KID AND COMICS WESTERNS OF THE FUTURE MIGHT NOW BECOME A JOKE-HEY,PUT THAT IS THE CBG NEXT MONTH. VILLAGE PEOPLE IS NOW AT MARVEL COMICSS AND THIS IS ONE BOOK-I KNOW I AM NOT BUYING-SORRY BOYS-ANOTHER REASON NOT TO BUY MARVEL OR DC.THANK YOU-NOW I CAN SAVE MONEY ON THE INDIES.THANK YOU,JOE-THANK YOU VERY MUCH-THATS THE NICEST THING YOU EVER DONE FOR ME.[THE SONG FROM THAT OLD ALBERT FINNY ''SQUOOGE ''MOVIE
The comic bombed.The Mini Series was finished in a Graphic Novel and still nobody,except a few Gay Websites and press gave a shit,but your average comic fan turn off by Marvel Stunt_one of 5 billion.And you can bet,most gays didn"t buy it.In the end,the poor Rawhide Kidd got made fun of,talk about about a bit and nobody cared.
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JACK HANDY
- Thursday, December 26 2002 17:59:1
* DEEP THOUGHTS * by Jack Handy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If they ever come up with a swashbuckling School, I think one of the courses should be Laughing, Then Jumping Off Something. When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil. It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. At first I thought, if I were Superman, a perfect secret identity would be "Clark Kent, Dentist," because you could save money on tooth X-rays. But then I thought, if a patient said, "How's my back tooth?" and you just looked at it with your X-ray vision and said, "Oh it's okay," then the patient would probably say, "Aren't you going to take an X-ray, stupid?" and you'd say, "Aw fUDD you, get outta here," and then he probably wouldn't even pay his bill. One thing kids like is to be tricked. For instance, I was going to take my little nephew to Disneyland, but instead I drove him to an old burned-out warehouse. "Oh, no," I said. "Disneyland burned down." He cried and cried, but I think that deep down, he thought it was a pretty good joke. I started to drive over to the real Disneyland, but it was getting pretty late. A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. "Hear that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby." Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth you'd probably be able to get a lot of free games. I'd like to be buried Indian-style, where they put you up on a high rack, above the ground. That way, you could get hit by meteorites and not even feel it.
If I lived back in the wild west days, instead of carrying a six-gun in my holster, I'd carry a soldering iron. That way, if some smart-aleck cowboy said something like "Hey, look. He's carrying a soldering iron!" and started laughing, and everybody else started laughing, I could just say, "That's right, it's a soldering iron.
The soldering iron of justice." Then everybody would get real quiet and ashamed, because they had made fun of the soldering iron of justice, and I could probably hit them up for a free drink. I bet when the neanderthal kids would make a snowman, someone would always end up saying, "Don't forget the thick, heavy brows." Then they would all get embarrassed because they remembered they had the big hunky brows too, and they'd get mad and eat the snowman. Fear can sometimes be a useful emotion. For instance, let's say you're an astronaught on the moon and you fear that your partner has been turned into Dracula.
The next time he goes out for the moon pieces, wham!, you just slam the door behind him and blast off.
He might call you on the radio and say he's not Dracula, but you just say, "Think again, bat man." Too bad you can't buy a voodoo globe so that you could make the earth spin real fast and freak everybody out. The people in the village were real poor, so none of the children had any toys. But this one little boy had gotten an old enema bag and filled it with rocks, and he would go around and whap the other children across the face with it. Man, I think my heart almost broke. Later the boy came up and offered to give me the toy.
This was too much! I reached out my hand, but then he ran away. I chased him down and took the enema bag. He cried a little, but that's the way of these people. I wish I had a Kryptonite cross, because then you could keep both Dracula AND Superman away. I don't think I'm alone when I say I'd like to see more and more planets fall under the ruthless domination of our solar system. Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean ? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind. I hope if dogs ever take over the world, and they chose a king, they don't just go by size, because I bet there are some Chihuahuas with some good ideas. I guess we were all guilty, in a way. We all shot him, we all skinned him, and we all got a complimentary bumper sticker that said, "I helped skin Bob." I bet the main reason the police keep people away from a plane crash is they don't want anybody walking in and lying down in the crash stuff, then, when somebody comes up, act like they just woke up and go, "What was THAT?!"
The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face. Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition. I'd rather be rich than stupid. If you were a poor Indian with no weapons, and a bunch of conquistadors came up to you and asked where the gold was, I don't think it would be a good idea to say, "I swallowed it. So sue me." If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, Mr. Brave man, I guess I'm a coward. I bet one legend that keeps recurring throughout history, in every culture, is the story of Popeye. When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges. To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other. What is it that makes a complete stranger dive into an icy river to save a solid gold baby? Maybe we'll never know. We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me. Probably the earliest flyswatters were nothing more than some sort of striking surface attached to the end of a long stick. I think someone should have had the decency to tell me the luncheon was free. To make someone run out with potato salad in his hand, pretending he's throwing up, is not what I call hospitality.
To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad. As I bit into the nectarine, it had a crisp juiciness about it that was very pleasurable - until I realized it wasn't a nectarine at all, but A HUMAN HEAD!! Most people don't realize that large pieces of coral, which have been painted brown and attached to the skull by common wood screws, can make a child look like a deer. If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason. Better not take a dog on the space shuttle, because if he sticks his head out when you're coming home his face might burn up. You know what would make a good story?
Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea. Sometimes when I feel like killing someone, I do a little trick to calm myself down. I'll go over to the persons house and ring the doorbell. When the person comes to the door, I'm gone, but you know what I've left on the porch? A jack-o-lantern with a knife stuck in the side of it's head with a note that says "You." After that I usually feel a lot better, and no harm done. If you're a horse, and someone gets on you, and falls off, and then gets right back on you, I think you should buck him off right away. If you ever teach a yodeling class, probably the hardest thing is to keep the students from just trying to yodel right off.
You see, we build to that. If you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just go real limp, because maybe you'll look like a dummy and people will try to catch you because, hey, free dummy. I'd like to see a nude opera, because when they hit those high notes, I bet you can really see it in those genitals. Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someones neck, and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what is that thing. He was a cowboy, mister, and he loved the land. He loved it so much he made a woman out of dirt and married her. But when he kissed her, she disintegrated. Later, at the funeral, when the preacher said, "Dust to dust," some people laughed, and the cowboy shot them. At his hanging, he told the others, "I'll be waiting for you in heaven--with a gun." The memories of my family outings are still a source of strength to me. I remember we'd all pile into the car - I forget what kind it was - and drive and drive. I'm not sure where we'd go, but I think there were some trees there. The smell of something was strong in the air as we played whatever sport we played. I remember a bigger, older guy we called "Dad." We'd eat some stuff, or not, and then I think we went home. I guess some things never leave you. If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is "Probably because of something you did." Contrary to what most people say, the most dangerous animal in the world is not the lion or the tiger or even the elephant. It's a shark riding on an elephant's back, just trampling and eating everything they see. As we were driving, we saw a sign that said "Watch for Rocks." Marta said it should read "Watch for Pretty Rocks." I told her she should write in her suggestion to the highway department, but she started saying it was a joke - just to get out of writing a simple letter! And I thought I was lazy! One thing kids like is to be tricked. For instance, I was going to take my little nephew to DisneyLand, but instead I drove him to an old burned-out warehouse.
"Oh, no," I said, "DisneyLand burned down." He cried and cried, but I think that deep down he thought it was a pretty good joke. I started to drive over to the real DisneyLand, but it was getting pretty late. If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked dolphins the most? I'd say Flippy, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's Hambone. Laurie got offended that I used the word "puke." But to me, that's what her dinner tasted like. We used to laugh at Grandpa when he'd head off and go fishing. But we wouldn't be laughing that evening when he'd come back with some whore he picked up in town. I wish a robot would get elected president. That way, when he came to town, we could all take a shot at him and not feel too bad. As the evening sky faded from a salmon color to a sort of flint gray, I thought back to the salmon I caught that morning, and how gray he was, and how I named him Flint. If you're a young Mafia gangster out on your first date, I bet it's real embarrassing if someone tries to kill you. Whenever I see an old lady slip and fall on a wet sidewalk, my first instinct is to laugh. But then I think, what is I was an ant, and she fell on me. Then it wouldn't seem quite so funny. If you go parachuting, and your parachute doesn't open, and you friends are all watching you fall, I think a funny gag would be to pretend you were swimming. When I was a kid my favorite relative was Uncle Caveman. After school we'd all go play in his cave, and every once in a while he would eat one of us. It wasn't until later that I found out that Uncle Caveman was a bear. Children need encouragement. If a kid gets an answer right, tell him it was a lucky guess. That way he develops a good, lucky feeling. The crows seemed to be calling his name, thought Caw. When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmm, boy.
Whether they find a life there or not, I think Jupiter should be called an enemy planet. Instead of trying to build newer and bigger weapons of destruction, we should be thinking about getting more use out of the ones we already have. I think a good gift for the President would be a chocolate revolver. and since he is so busy, you'd probably have to run up to him real quick and give it to him. Just because swans mate for life, I don't think its that big a deal. First of all, if you're a swan, you're probably not going to find a swan that looks much better than the one you've got, so why not mate for life? If you're robbing a bank and you're pants fall down, I think it's okay to laugh and to let the hostages laugh too, because, come on, life is funny.
If you ever catch on fire, try to avoid looking in a mirror, because I bet that will really throw you into a panic. Sometimes I think I'd be better off dead. No, wait, not me, you. I can't stand cheap people. It makes me real mad when someone says something like, "Hey, when are you going to pay me that $100 you owe me?" or "Do you have that $50 you borrowed?" Man, quit being so cheap! I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed shrink is our friend. I think one way the cops could make money would be to hold a murder weapons sale. Many people could really use used ice picks. If you ever reach total enlightenment while drinking beer, I bet you could shoot beer out of you nose. I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not our children's children, because I don't think children should be having sex. Even though I was their captive, the Indians allowed me quite a bit of freedom. I could walk freely, make my own meals, and even hurl large rocks at their heads.
It was only later that I discovered that they were not Indians at all but only dirty-clothes hampers. I wish outer space guys would conquer the Earth and make people their pets, because I'd like to have one of those little beds with my name on it. It's true that every time you hear a bell, an angel gets its wings. But what they don't tell you is that every time you hear a mouse trap snap, and Angel gets set on fire. If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it.
The next time I have meat and mashed potatoes, I think I'll put a very large blob of potatoes on my plate with just a little piece of meat. And if someone asks me why I didn't get more meat, I'll just say, "Oh, you mean this?" and pull out a big piece of meat from inside the blob of potatoes, where I've hidden it. Good magic trick, huh? Life, to me, is like a quiet forest pool, one that needs a direct hit from a big rock half-buried in the ground. You pull and you pull, but you can't get the rock out of the ground. So you give it a good kick, but you lose your balance and go skidding down the hill toward the pool. Then out comes a big Hawaiian man who was screwing his wife beside the pool because they thought it was real pretty. He tells you to get out of there, but you start faking it, like you're talking Hawaiian, and then he gets mad and chases you... Sometimes, when I drive across the desert in the middle of the night, with no other cars around, I start imagining: What if there were no civilization out there? No cities, no factories, no people? And then I think: No people or factories? Then who made this car? And this highway? And I get so confused I have to stick my head out the window into the driving rain---unless there's lightning, because I could get struck on the head by a bolt. The whole town laughed at my great-grandfather, just because he worked hard and saved his money. True, working at the hardware store didn't pay much, but he felt it was better than what everybody else did, which was go up to the volcano and collect the gold nuggets it shot out every day. It turned out he was right. After forty years, the volcano petered out. Everybody left town, and the hardware store went broke. Finally he decided to collect gold nuggets too, but there weren't many left by then. Plus, he broke his leg and the doctor's bills were real high. Too bad when I was a kid there wasn't a guy in our class that everybody called the "Cricket Boy", because I would have liked to stand up in class and tell everybody, "You can make fun of the Cricket Boy if you want to, but to me he's just like everybody else." Then everybody would leave the Cricket Boy alone, and I'd invite him over to spend the night at my house, but after about five minutes of that loud chirping I'd have to kick him out. Maybe later we could get up a petition to get the Cricket Family run out of town. Bye, Cricket Boy. I think a good product would be "Baby Duck Hat". It's a fake baby duck, which you strap on top of your head. Then you go swimming underwater until you find a mommy duck and her babies, and you join them. Then, all of a sudden, you stand up out of the water and roar like Godzilla. Man, those ducks really take off! Also, Baby Duck Hat is good for parties. I wish I lived back in the old west days, because I'd save up my money for about twenty years so I could buy a solid-gold pick. Then I'd go out West and start digging for gold. When someone came up and asked what I was doing, I'd say, "Looking for gold, ya durn fool." He'd say, "Your pick is gold," and I'd say, "Well, that was easy." Good joke, huh. A funny thing to do is, if you're out hiking and your friend gets bitten by a poisonous snake, tell him you're going to go for help, then go about ten feet and pretend that *you* got bit by a snake. Then start an argument with him about who's going to go get help. A lot of guys will start crying. That's why it makes you feel good when you tell them it was just a joke. I guess I kinda lost control, because in the middle of the play I ran up and lit the evil puppet villain on fire. No, I didn't. Just kidding. I just said that to help illustrate one of the human emotions, which is freaking out. Another emotion is greed, as when you kill someone for money, or something like that. Another emotion is generosity, as when you pay someone double what he paid for his stupid puppet. Many people think that history is a dull subject. Dull? Is it "dull" that Jesse James once got bitten on the forehead by an ant, and at first it didn't seem like anything, but then the bite got worse and worse, so he went to a doctor in town, and the secretary told him to wait, so he sat down and waited, and waited, and waited, and waited, and then finally he got to see the doctor, and the doctor put some salve on it? You call that dull? I scrambled to the top of the precipice where Nick was waiting. "That was fun," I said. "You bet it was," said Nick. "Let's climb higher." "No," I said. "I think we should be heading back now." "We have time," Nick insisted. I said we didn't, and Nick said we did. We argued back and forth like that for about 20 minutes, then finally decided to head back. I didn't say it was an interesting story. If you're a Thanksgiving dinner, but you don't like the stuffing or the cranberry sauce or anything else, just pretend like you're eating it, but instead, put it all in your lap and form it into a big mushy ball. Then, later, when you're out back having cigars with the boys, let out a big fake cough and throw the ball to the ground. Then say, "Boy, these are good cigars!" I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?" "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet. You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times." It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach. He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on. If I ever opened a trampoline store, I don't think I'd call it Trampo-Land, because you might think it was a store for tramps, which is not the inpression we are trying to convey with our store. On the other hand, we would not prohibit tramps from browsing, or testing the trampolines, unless a tramp's gyrations seemed to be getting out of control. I can still recall old Mister Barnslow getting out every morning and nailing a fresh load of tadpoles to the old board of his. Then he'd spin it round and round, like a wheel of fortune, and no matter where it stopped he'd yell out, "Tadpoles! Tadpoles is a winner!" We all thought he was crazy. But then we had some growing up to do. Once when I was in Hawaii, on the island of Kauai, I met a mysterious old stranger. He said he was about to die and wanted to tell someone about the treasure. I said, "Okay, as long as it's not a long story. Some of us have a plane to catch, you know." He stared telling hes story, about the treasure and his life and all, and I thought: "This story isn't too long." But then, he kept going, and I started thinking, "Uh-oh, this story is getting long." But then the story was over, and I said to myself: "You know, that story wasn't too long after all." I forget what the story was about, but there was a good movie on the plane. It was a little long, though. I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh. I wouldn't be surprised if someday some fishermen caught a big shark and cut it open, and there inside was a whole person. Then they cut the person open, and in him is a little baby shark. And in the baby shark there isn't a person, because it would be too small. But there's a little doll or something, like a Johnny Combat little toy guy---something like that.
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